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    brianApr 18, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    bebebe, I’d be wary of casting such a wide brush on several hundred students (in each school respectively). It doesn’t reflect well on the specific school, or the University as a whole. Both myself and a number of my peers were FCRH graduates and we’ve done quite well following graduation.

    The email probably wasn’t in the best of taste, and its language was probably unnecessary, but I doubt there was any malice or condescension behind it. It’s nice that the folks behind it apologized; it makes sense to move on and learn from it.

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    Philosophy>>BusinessApr 18, 2015 at 1:07 am

    In this comment, he both points out a logical flaw of the ramtime times, and than proceeds to make the same mistake himself in defense of Gabelli students.

    “It presupposes that business students are all of a type, and that type is deficient in personality, empathy and common decency. The reality is that Gabelli students are deeply engaged in the world, intellectually curious and are very committed to service work.”

    He has an issue with presupposing business students are all of one type, but than goes on to presuppose business students are all of another type (curious, deeply engaged, etc).

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    lolApr 17, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    Annnnd we have bebebe here to reinforce the very stereotype that Howe discourages…

    A lot of liberal arts students know what they’re getting into when they choose their majors. They’re not NOT thinking of the future. But what irritated most people (and let me note that there were lib arts majors, science kids AND business students among the irritated) was the wording of the e-mail. Personally, I just found it funny. I don’t really care about the assumption that a business degree is more marketable. Sure, a business is more marketable, on its face. But do I consider it valuable? No. I have different priorities and educational goals which business school wouldn’t satisfy. This doesn’t mean that business school’s a bad choice. And it doesn’t mean that I’ve chosen a somehow “lesser” path. Yet that’s what the language of this e-mail suggests.

    In fact, I think a lot people don’t have a problem with the program itself. I’d think about it. But Gabelli should’ve simply marketed it as a program for anyone who’s never had time to take in business classes, but has always wanted to– without the implication that all liberal arts students who don’t do the program are unprepared for the future. In fact, I know a lot of liberal arts kids who spend their time at college running clubs and piling up internships, and they end up getting jobs before or right after they graduate. They may or may not end up being extraordinary wealthy, but they can definitely make a living. Point is, whether you’re a business student or a lib arts student, not everyone cares about making piles of money or about being a marketable object.

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    bebebeApr 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    This is what happens when we try to help RH. Face it, you guys have trouble finding employment. Everyone knows it and I hear it from my Liberal Arts friends all the time. You can call us “Douchey” all you want, but the fact is Gabelli was just trying to help and you’re just retreating into denial.

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