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    LilySep 30, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    “People like them less” read the article. People are getting attacked and killed because of Islamophobia and you’re here downplaying people’s suffering. I’m so tired of ignorant racist Fordham students

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    Ben Arisen (@BrightLeaf88)Sep 30, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    Notice that each example of an uptick in hatred toward Muslims has preceded a Muslim terror attack– not the other way around. The fact that Muslims were one of the least targeted groups in America before 9/11, and the fact that general unease towards Muslims increases every time another Muslim kills more people, proves that in this conflict one group is clearly the aggressor and the other group is simply retaliating. Of course, I don’t endorse hate crimes against random Muslims just walking around and minding their own business, as it is definitely an immature and misdirected form of retaliation, but the violence committed by actors on both sides still cannot be equivocated. It is problematic that a little over a week after dozens of Americans were injured in another series of awful and unprovoked terror attacks, carried out right here in our own city in the name of radical Islam, we must once again be reminded that the real victims are Muslims, because now people will like them less. More problematic still is the fact that articles like this, highlighting the fear that Muslims now experience living in Western society, are taken to be heroic exposures of injustice; while anyone who dares discuss the fears that Westerners experience in the face of repeated terror attacks by Muslims from a specific place is denounced as a fearmongering, hateful racist.

    If radical Islamic terror were to end tomorrow, then “Islamophobia” in the West would end along with it. If everyone in the West were to become a shining paragon of tolerance tomorrow, Islamic terror would probably increase. That is the real difference.

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      SarahSep 30, 2016 at 6:22 pm

      I love comments like this pretending like you’re not Islamophobic and you’re just “being logical.” Muslims weren’t targeted before 9/12 because most Americans barely knew they existed. Most of the Muslims targeted for hate crimes in the US are peaceful, but you’re saying it’s justified because people are scared after terrorist attacks? So with that logic, when the US government bombs the shit out of the Middle East killing civilians, including children, are they allowed to attack innocent Americans? If someone gets attacked by a member of a certain race, does that give them the right to be bigoted toward that race forever? No. Moron.

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        SarahSep 30, 2016 at 6:24 pm

        9/11 gdi that’s a terrible typo and it won’t let me edit. And also your claim that Islamophobia would stop if terrorist attacks stopped is idiotic. People aren’t going to stop being racist.

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        Ben Arisen (@BrightLeaf88)Sep 30, 2016 at 7:35 pm

        No, I did not say hate crimes against innocent peaceful Muslims are justified. My point is that we need to address the terrorism being committed by radical Islam before pointing fingers at Americans who feel victimized and afraid and lash out as a result. Your comment contains a great parallel: when the US government “bombs the shit out of the Middle East killing civilians, including children.” When Middle Eastern people whose cities have been bombed by the US government form negative feelings about Americans as a result of that, and some innocent American is attacked somewhere, I doubt your first reaction would be to call it a hate crime and decry the widespread Ameriphobia in the Middle East, even though they shouldn’t be “allowed” to do that. The more reasonable reaction, and the one I have as well, is to condemn the United States for its aggressive and disgusting interventionist actions that created the anti-American sentiment in the ME in the first place. In fact, that sentiment is pretty commonplace among people who are aware of the situation, but I’m not sure I’ve ever read an article sympathizing with innocent Americans who are afraid to walk around in Afghanistan because the people there are just so ignorant and hateful. Such a thing would be ridiculous. But when the roles are reversed, Americans are “islamophobic” and “bigoted” for forming any emotional resistance to ideologies whose radical supporters bomb their communities, and the anti-Muslim reaction is the real evil. It is a double standard that is anti-Western at its core.

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        Ben Arisen (@BrightLeaf88)Sep 30, 2016 at 8:02 pm

        And as for your other comment: Why is it idiotic to think that anti-Muslim sentiment would die down if people stopped having a reason to be anti-Muslim? People generally don’t just hate other religions for no reason. Just look at Buddhism and Hinduism, two other religions with lots of adherents in the US (also often people with dark skin, no less): yet there aren’t even words to describe hating them.
        Oh, and lastly, (also to that other poster) your accusations of racism mean nothing to me. I know that’s supposed to be the big zinger that proves your point every time, but it doesn’t even make sense in this context. Islam is not a race, it is an ideology. If you think that because most Muslims are brown people, then the only reason I could have made up my viewpoints is because I hate brown people, then I’m sorry but you’re really grasping at straws.

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