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    Classic ReadApr 17, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    Fordham has grotesque job advantages over BYU and U Pittsburg with FU being in New York. It needs to have this reflected in the rankings via higher salaries. Go big or go home should be Fordham’s motto !

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    Concerned OneApr 17, 2016 at 1:38 am

    Fordham never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity ! Seriously tech has been burning in the US and our computer science department is secondary if that, our department head came from Monmouth so that outlines what we are paying. Science in general is an afterthought. Given the current strategy of studying things as we drive down the highway looking in the rearview mirror most things stay the same. We have Jesuit tunnel vision in perpetuity, as opposed to our president grasping the nature and future of education. Comically NYU’s outgoing president John Sexton is an alum. Sexton buried us instead of piping in with sound advice, he made brilliant strategic moves at NYU, especially in NYC with tech, economics and utilizing the city’s strengths. We got pulpit and vagueness as opposed to direction.
    Older alums just want things to stay the same, everyone has to recognize that Fordham either grows and competes or it stagnates, the good old days of liberal arts are over. This yield attendance number is extremely striking and signals that we cannot compete for top students, we need to know why and what needs done ! A demographic shift is happening, previously we benefited as did all schools from a huge influx of incoming college kids, that is over. Hiding facts from everyone is burying one’s head in the sand, an open and transparent debate needs to happen about Fordham’s overall future and direction. Example, is the core even relevant or is it a turnoff for attracting students, is the hoopla re. Jesuit values working or defeating us in raising this 9 percent number ?

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    Conor RApr 16, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    A good read here on Fordham’s financial aid http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-negotiate-a-better-financial-aid-package-for-college-2016-4 Real question is where does this aid money come from outside the federal loans and grants ? Here is the best value college rankings http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php?table=all . Fordham is expensive vs much higher ranked colleges, it ranks #267 . Two of Fordham’s key economic drivers where they have historically mass produced graduates for money is law and graduate business. Both programs should have been higher ranked and have better operating budgets, but they were historically skimmed to supplement the undergraduate Rose Hill program. Each of those programs now has serious problems ! In laws case there is a flight to top 20 and jobs have seriously thinned. In order to stem the damage in law rankings Fordham has reduced intake. In the MBA part-time case Fordham ran it into the ground and now they peddle one year MS degrees to Chinese students.

    Rose Hill alone cannot balance it’s own Bronx budget, it never has been able to. Essentially law and what used to be a factory MBA program helped pay for that Rose Hill undergraduate experience. Father McShane completely skimmed the graduate school of business from 03-08 and then it went into financial decline. The last three years however thru 11 one year MS degrees and the MBA program it has made on average 14 million over it’s net tuition budget (it probably handed over half of it’s money to begin with given low budget). Both programs operating budgets are low vs say NYU and Rose Hill pimps them to supplement all else including athletics. Fordham is now stuck as a 95% of revenue tuition based university. It needs to make more money elsewhere but does not have the programs the market demands, nor does it have the money to start these programs. Furthermore it does not get the type of donations other universities achieve.

    Father McShane fails to recognize that he has damaged graduate school to build undergraduate national rankings, plus focusing on social justice does nothing to attract donations or paying grad students. He is now the wrong guy for the times ! Robbing Peter to pay Paul has caught up to him, Fordham does not have the ranking or programs top entry high school grads want, nor does it have the national brand they want. More importantly it is zen focused on it’s own narcism of Jesuit greatness which does not attract top students, top programs, faculty and reputation does. Faking it only goes so far, to get out of this mess it has to focus on NYC strengths and increase starting salaries for undergrads. Career Services needs strengthened and better career alignments must happen early with internships while students are attending. Fordham has to make better use of all that NYC offers and can partner with. There are no magic bullets to get out of this quagmire !

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    JamesApr 16, 2016 at 12:37 am

    How much of this drop had to do with all the free applications FU is sending out to what seems like every high school student in the country? Lots of schools, such as BC, are actually making it “harder” for prospective students to apply (adding an extra essay, etc) so only those who actually reasonably want to attend end up applying.

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    InterestedReaderApr 14, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    Not sure how the author arrived at the 9% yield figure. By my calculation, the target freshman class size of 2,135 is about 10.9% of 19,667, which is 44% of 44,697. That is still a problematic yield percentage, but at least it is the accurate one.

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    FrankApr 13, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    Re. the Boston University ranking, Fordham was tied with Boston University http://legacy.fordham.edu/campus_resources/enewsroom/topstories_1922.asp

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    FrankApr 13, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    Good piece on Boston University going from 51st to tied for 41st in 2013. http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/university-jumps-in-us-news-world-report-rankings/

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    BrendaApr 13, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    First off a 14 point fall in three years is significant no matter how one cuts it. Reality is that Fordham is a safety school for most applicants, perceptually it has issues hence the yield. With a predicted yield of 9% capture that speaks volumes, students apply but go elsewhere. Fordham has come a long way from the Vinnie’s from Long Island crowd, a commuter school of no significant merit, rather one just trying to survive. If Fordham wants to increase yield it has to improve it’s stem offerings and be a well rounded university. It is far too focused on being a Jesuit program which reduces acceptances of offers from non religious types. That drop in yield needs seriously addressed. It is like throwing a party and only 9% of those invited show up !

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